Would you know if the Elders in the congregation make the decision to make another Elder loose his privileges? Or is the CO and PO called on the matter?
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Elder lost privilages due to 1 Timothy 3:1-7. Why?
by RULES & REGULATIONS in1 timothy 3:1-7 reads:.
if any man is reaching out for an office of overseer, he is desirous of a fine work.2the overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind, orderly, hospitable, qualified to teach,3not a drunken brawler, not a smiter, but reasonable, not belligerent, not a lover of money,4a man presiding over his own household in a fine manner, having children in subjection with all seriousness;5(if indeed any man does not know how to preside over his own household, how will he take care of gods congregation?
)6not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up [with pride] and fall into the judgment passed upon the devil.7moreover, he should also have a fine testimony from people on the outside, in order that he might not fall into reproach and a snare of the devil.. .
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Elder lost privilages due to 1 Timothy 3:1-7. Why?
by RULES & REGULATIONS in1 timothy 3:1-7 reads:.
if any man is reaching out for an office of overseer, he is desirous of a fine work.2the overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind, orderly, hospitable, qualified to teach,3not a drunken brawler, not a smiter, but reasonable, not belligerent, not a lover of money,4a man presiding over his own household in a fine manner, having children in subjection with all seriousness;5(if indeed any man does not know how to preside over his own household, how will he take care of gods congregation?
)6not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up [with pride] and fall into the judgment passed upon the devil.7moreover, he should also have a fine testimony from people on the outside, in order that he might not fall into reproach and a snare of the devil.. .
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1 Timothy 3:1-7 reads:
If any man is reaching out for an office of overseer, he is desirous of a fine work. 2 The overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind, orderly, hospitable, qualified to teach, 3 not a drunken brawler, not a smiter, but reasonable, not belligerent, not a lover of money, 4 a man presiding over his own household in a fine manner, having children in subjection with all seriousness; 5 (if indeed any man does not know how to preside over his own household, how will he take care of God’s congregation?) 6 not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up [with pride] and fall into the judgment passed upon the Devil. 7 Moreover, he should also have a fine testimony from people on the outside, in order that he might not fall into reproach and a snare of the Devil.
An Elder in my congregation lost his privilages last month due to one of his baptized teens being disfellowshipped.He has 2 other teens that still attend and both are baptized.He sent a letter to the Society to see why he was demoted and he was told that what is written in 1 Timothy 3 :1-6 stands.He was relieved of being an elder.
My questions are:Since when is someone responsible for the actions of a teen? Could he loose his privilages if he had 5 kids that still attend the meetings and just one quits or gets disfellowshipped? What does this scripture really mean?
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Heartbroken mother takes action......
by lavendar ini sent this letter to our son the other day.
we pray he wakes up and realizes this org is a lie.
i can't just quietly sit by and watch him be reeled into it.
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Lavendar
What a great letter ! I don't think there is anything more you can do.It has taken me close to 30 years to finally realize that the WTS are a cult and how demanding they are.They start you out with: just do a little Bible study,attend the Public Talk. It looks like they really care about you.Then,once you are baptized,you do everything you are told or else.
I think you need to give him time.Who knows how long it will take for him to come around? It doesn't matter how weak or strong of a faith he has.He needs to find out himself about the WTS. With the internet,it's easier to get info on them and see how they work.There are more members leaving than before.Their load is too heavy,lies are catching up to them,and most members stay only because of family.
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Name "UNWRITTEN" Rules That JWs Are Supposed To Follow
by minimus inas with the scribes and pharisees, there are a number of unwritten rules that witnesses are supposed to follow.
here's a couple : "worldly" kids in society depictions are shown quite often wearing their baseball caps backwards.
jehovah's witness youths would not want to imitate that "look".
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Name "UNWRITTEN" Rules That JWs Are Supposed To Follow
by minimus inas with the scribes and pharisees, there are a number of unwritten rules that witnesses are supposed to follow.
here's a couple : "worldly" kids in society depictions are shown quite often wearing their baseball caps backwards.
jehovah's witness youths would not want to imitate that "look".
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Minimus
I was counseled once for sitting in a row of seats by myself.We were told to sit in the middle rows sitting next to someone or near someone.
I was counseled once for not having a Service bag.I would carry the books in my hand.Two elders told me," We don't carry our books that way."
I was counseled once for not carrying all the books in my Service bag even if we didn't need them that day.One elder even lifted my Service bag once to see if I was carrying books in my bag.I would carry just the Watchtower Magazine,Bible,and Song Book on Sunday's.
That is why I call myself RULES & REGULATIONS because that's all they care about.How they look and what they look like to other people.
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I walked out in the middle of the Watchtower Study yesterday............
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini'm down to 1 meeting per week and that is even becoming difficult to attend.i read blondie's excellent reviews of the weekly watchtower study and that keeps my sanity when reading the weekly study.
yesterday,i walked out in the middle of the study and went home because of some comments that were made after the reading of paragraph 5.here is blondie's study article and one comment that was made at the meeting.. .
clearly, jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind.
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LovesDubs
Thank you for finding and posting the article "Why are you looking forward to 1975? "
I remember an elder and his family sold their Hot Dog+Beef Stand business and pioneered because the end was near.When 1975 came and went,he bought back the business a few years later.He became so frustrated that he later quit being a Witness.We always knew that the WTS said those things as the article states,but never caught on.
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I walked out in the middle of the Watchtower Study yesterday............
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini'm down to 1 meeting per week and that is even becoming difficult to attend.i read blondie's excellent reviews of the weekly watchtower study and that keeps my sanity when reading the weekly study.
yesterday,i walked out in the middle of the study and went home because of some comments that were made after the reading of paragraph 5.here is blondie's study article and one comment that was made at the meeting.. .
clearly, jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind.
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Gumby said:
I leaned over to my dub wife and said" you don't know how these comments piss me off". My wife WELL remembers how the brothers and the C.O. was looking at there watches and counting off the days till 1975 would be here and the end would come. I also told her that I cannot understand why so many don't see what I was seeing in these comments and what the Watchtower was stating.
Gumby: We all know you went back for the family.My family and I also went thru 1975.I walked out because it bothered me that these comments were all lies and that the WTS always blames its members for leaving and that "THEY" the members read into things.I went to the bathroom,called my wife{ who is not a Witness }and demanded that she pick me up as soon as possible.I got in the car and told her I was happy that she never believed in the CRAPTOWER.She told me to calm down since I was so riled up.Now,I'm going to get a call from my mom to see why I left early.
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I walked out in the middle of the Watchtower Study yesterday............
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini'm down to 1 meeting per week and that is even becoming difficult to attend.i read blondie's excellent reviews of the weekly watchtower study and that keeps my sanity when reading the weekly study.
yesterday,i walked out in the middle of the study and went home because of some comments that were made after the reading of paragraph 5.here is blondie's study article and one comment that was made at the meeting.. .
clearly, jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind.
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I'm down to 1 meeting per week and that is even becoming difficult to attend.I read Blondie's excellent reviews of the weekly Watchtower Study and that keeps my sanity when reading the weekly study. Yesterday,I walked out in the middle of the study and went home because of some comments that were made after the reading of paragraph 5.Here is Blondie's study article and one comment that was made at the meeting.
Clearly, Jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by Satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind." (Luke 17:22, 31) And, indeed, this has happened to some Christians. For years such ones longed for the day when Jehovah will put an end to this wicked world. However, when Armageddon did not occur by the time they expected, ` they became disheartened. Their confidence in the nearness of Jehovah's day of judgment faded. They slowed down in the ministry and gradually became so involved in the mundane matters of life that little time was left for spiritual matters. (Luke 8:11, 13, 14) In time, they `returned to the things behind'--how sad!
Here was the comment at my meeting that went something like this:
"In 1914, our brothers and sisters were waiting for the end and never came.In 1975,there were many brothers and sisters that waited for the end and it never came.These brothers became disheartened and left.They went back to this world and never to come back because they loved the things in the world.We need to be patient because the end is near.We don't want to be like these brothers where they ignored all the signs."
The WTS is always blaming the messenger and not the message.These people walked away due to lies and deception by the WTS!!!!! How do they live with themselves?
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How much infidelity was there in your congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy congregation had 85 members in the 90's.today, there are only 35 members.i counted 6 divorces that were due to infidelity.all were married in their teens and each married the first person they ever dated.all the men found new girlfriends or remarried and left all the kids and financial burdens on their wives.most of the ex-wives live with their parents and have a hard time remarrying due to lack of men in the kingdom hall.. now,the new thing is for these divorced women finding brothers who were divorced due to infidelity in their marriage and date brothers from out of state.don't you think that by finding a partner who was in the same situation makes it more difficult?
and what guarantee is there that this will work since their first husbands were witnesses?.
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My congregation had 85 members in the 90's.Today, there are only 35 members.I counted 6 divorces that were due to infidelity.All were married in their teens and each married the first person they ever dated.All the men found new girlfriends or remarried and left all the kids and financial burdens on their wives.Most of the ex-wives live with their parents and have a hard time remarrying due to lack of men in the Kingdom Hall.
Now,the new thing is for these divorced women finding brothers who were divorced due to infidelity in their marriage and date brothers from out of state.Don't you think that by finding a partner who was in the same situation makes it more difficult? And what guarantee is there that this will work since their first husbands were Witnesses?
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The Public Talk yesterday was about nothing......................again!
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini try to attend some sunday meetings just to keep peace in my family .but,it is almost unbearable to listen to these public talks.yesterday,the talk was about adam and eve and how they ate the forbidden fruit.how they sinned and now we are all sinners.how they were thrown out of paradise .how the angels came down and had relations with females.that jesus died for our sins.
only jehovah's witnesses who are faithful to the end will inherit paradise earth.the earth will be here to time indefinite.the survivors will never die after the 1000 year reign is over.. how many times have we heard this talk?
how many more times can they pound these talks into everyone's brain?
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I try to attend some Sunday meetings just to keep peace in my family .But,it is almost unbearable to listen to these Public Talks.Yesterday,the talk was about Adam and Eve and how they ate the forbidden fruit.How they sinned and now we are all sinners.How they were thrown out of paradise .How the angels came down and had relations with females.That Jesus died for our sins. Only Jehovah's Witnesses who are faithful to the end will inherit Paradise Earth.The earth will be here to time indefinite.The survivors will never die after the 1000 year reign is over.
How many times have we heard this talk? How many more times can they pound these talks into everyone's brain? Does the WTS repeat these talks on purpose because they know its members are brain dead and are satisfied with the spiritual food?
I can't sit thru them any longer and wonder how anybody with a brain doesn't suffer from this repetition.
